Инфо для супругов EU без 4EUFAM, для борьбы с зарвавшимися консульствами.

[Basilio]

Многие Шенгеновские консультва требуют ,без основания, дополнительные документы с супругов EU не имеющих 4EUFAM штампа.
Даю скидку на сайт с полезной информацией помогающей остановить самодеятельный произвол.
http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/e...index_en.html#

[Basilio]

Информфция для особо любопытных.
Предлагаю для всеобщего ознакомления "Инструкцию по принятию решений для консульств стран Шенген"
http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj...10_1620_en.pdf

[stocking]

почитал. не совсем понял хотя догадываюсь что вроде так.

простой пример. муж ирландец. жена русская. у нее обычный 4 штамп. живут в ирл.

едут в шенген чтобы отдохнуть. значит ли наличие обычного 4го штампа и самой карты что за визой жене идти не надо а можно смело ехать?

спасибо

[Basilio]

Other residence cards issued to family members of EU citizens under national legislation
concerning family reunification with own nationals (who have not exercised the right of free
movement) do not exempt their holders from the visa requirement under Directive
2004/38/EC:
Example:
United Kingdom residence card issued to the Libyan spouse of a United Kingdom citizen
living in the United Kingdom.

Если заменить ЮК на Ирл, а Ливия на Россия то в вашем случае нужна виза.
Чтобы пользоватся преимуществами Directive
2004/38/EC вам нужно ,например, жить с женой в Северной Ирландии (ЮК) и получить карточку на жену в ЮК.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases.../111&type=HTML
К сожалению все перечисленое ниже к вам не относится
Union citizens, who have exercised their right to move and reside freely and moved to the host Member State, are therefore entitled to be accompanied or joined by their family members, irrespective of nationality[1].
The Member State of destination should grant you every facility to obtain the necessary visa, which shall be issued free of charge as soon as possible and on the basis of an accelerated procedure. In any event, even in the most difficult cases, the visa should be issued no later than a couple of weeks following the date of application.
As your right of entry is derived from your family ties with a Union citizen, all the Member State consular officials can ask you to produce for the visa application is your passport and a document establishing the family ties with a Union citizen, such as marriage or birth certificate and proof of dependence, where applicable.

Immigration officers at the border may not:НЕ МОГУТ
ВБИВАТЬ ШТАМПЫ В ВАШ ПАСПОРТ ПО ПРИБЫТИИ
affix an entry stamp in your passport on arrival when you present the residence card;
ask you to produce any documents other than a valid passport with a visa, where applicable, and documents attesting to your family link with a Union citizen, such as to furnish proof of means to support yourself, travel tickets, employment certificate, pay slips, bank statements, proof of accommodation, means of subsistence, medical certificate …
ask you how much money you have to spend;
ask you questions regarding the purpose and duration of your trip.

Consular officers issuing the visas may not: НЕ МОГУТ

ask you to produce any documents other than a valid passport and documents attesting to your family link with a Union citizen and proof of dependence, where applicable, such as to furnish proof of means to support yourself, travel tickets, employment certificate, pay slips, bank statements, proof of accommodation, means of subsistence, medical certificate …
ask you how much money you have to spend;
ask you questions regarding the purpose and duration of your trip.

REFERENCES
Directive 2004/38/EC, Official Journal L 158, 30 April 2004
Please note that should the host Member States fail to transpose the provisions of the Directive correctly or on time, they are directly applicable. As a result of that, you can rely on them against any national provisions, which are incompatible with them.

Basilio добавил 13.05.2010 в 16:11

Сообщение от stocking

почитал. не совсем понял хотя догадываюсь что вроде так.

простой пример. муж ирландец. жена русская. у нее обычный 4 штамп. живут в ирл.

едут в шенген чтобы отдохнуть. значит ли наличие обычного 4го штампа и самой карты что за визой жене идти не надо а можно смело ехать?

спасибо

То что изложено в предыдущем посте можно попробовать обойти при помощи этой информации
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
To obtain a Schengen visa, a traveller must take the following steps:


Requirements for family members of an EEA citizen differ from those indicated above. In general for family members of an EEA citizen, there is no requirement to provide information about one's employment, or to prove one's means of subsistence. In addition, no fee is required for the visa to be issued.