WP прикрывают

[mariukaz]

особенно радует, когда товарищи с постсоветского пространства, приехав в чужую страну и пожив какое-то время, а некотрые сразу по прибытию, начинают считать, сколько в этой стране других приежих, при этом неодобрительно цокая языком.

[V/B]

Сообщение от Jannise

вчера, [civic centre, ballymun. New Ikea oppening.]

... Пришло очень мало людей, и 80% из них - были не местные. Ирландци даже и не собирались туда....

"I recently had a long conversation with a friend of mine who lost his job. He was in a reasonably good job and after a little bit of overtime was earning a gross salary of ?35,000 per year.

So I asked him the obvious question of how he was going to cope now with four children to feed and, I have to be honest, the answer startled me.

He was actually a lot better off and now in a position to go out golfing every day while his children are at school...."

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...k-1708412.html

[Mishka Na Servere]

Сообщение от V/B

"I recently had a long conversation with a friend of mine who lost his job. He was in a reasonably good job and after a little bit of overtime was earning a gross salary of ?35,000 per year.

So I asked him the obvious question of how he was going to cope now with four children to feed and, I have to be honest, the answer startled me.

He was actually a lot better off and now in a position to go out golfing every day while his children are at school...."

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/le...k-1708412.html

Социализм, построенный на отдельно взятом острове.
Пролетарии всех стран, присоединяйтесь!

[Vecais]

Сообщение от mariukaz

особенно радует, когда товарищи с постсоветского пространства, приехав в чужую страну и пожив какое-то время, а некотрые сразу по прибытию, начинают считать, сколько в этой стране других приежих, при этом неодобрительно цокая языком.

Нормальная реакция. Я имею в виду - нормальная для менталитета контингента.

[She]

В то время, когда другие страны будут медленно и уверенно выходить из кризиса - Ирландия будет погружаться глубоко-глубоко в клоаку. Я уже начинаю собирать вещи, что б не испачкаться

[Troll]

[moderatorial]последнее китайское предупреждение.
последующие сообщения с обсуждением национального менталитета "понаехавших тут", коренных и натурализованных жителей любых стран будут рассматриваться как провокация конфликта на национальной почве и караться в соответствии с правилами форума[/moderatorial]

[Mishka Na Servere]

Сообщение от Troll

[moderatorial]последнее китайское предупреждение.
последующие сообщения с обсуждением национального менталитета "понаехавших тут", коренных и натурализованных жителей любых стран будут рассматриваться как провокация конфликта на национальной почве и караться в соответствии с правилами форума[/moderatorial]

А про нигерийцев можно?

[Troll]

Сообщение от Mishka Na Servere

А про нигерийцев можно?

про правила получения разрешений на работу для нигерийцев - конечно, можно

[Лицо Бомж]

Сообщение от Mishka Na Servere

А про нигерийцев можно?

Нигерийцев, говоришь? Есть их у нас

ЗЫ. Есичо я это... "просто разместил объяву"

[Miracle]

Мы с мужем сейчас ждём получения его последнего пермита, ждём уже месяц, вот позвонили сегодня узнать по поводу новых правил. Сказали нам что всё вступит в силу с 1 июня. Плюс сказали что если супруг(га) продлевается до или после 1 июня, то никого на его(её) место искать не должны, это только для супругов открывающих новый пермит.

Ну и про плату для spouse permit, при подаче на новый или при продлении пермита придётся платить,только после 1 июня естессно. Правда у нас unlimited.....интересно сколько придётся платить за спауз unlimited пермит, если за 2 года - 2500, то за к примеру 50 лет - 125000

Шутки шутками,а напрягает это всё....надеюсь успею до июня.....

[Korvin]

Сообщение от Miracle

споусе пермит, при подаче на новый или при продлении пермита придётся платить,только после 1 июня естессно

Странно. Это как-то не стыкуетсйя с етой их поправкой внизу: "Where the principal permit holder was granted a work permit before 1 June 2009, no fees will apply for applications in respect of spouses and dependants of the principal permit holder"

[Rex]

Да, действительно не стыкуется. Я думаю, несут отсебятину не разобравшись. Miracle, вы с етой распечаткой к ним потом и отправляйтесь за пермитом.

[Mysh]

Background
The Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment has implemented revised eligibility requirements for new work permits, to apply to prospective first-time entrants to Irish labour market from 1 June 2009. These measures are intended to strengthen the qualifying conditions for the granting of new work permits to non-EEA nationals for occupations requiring lower skills/qualifications and vacancies for which could increasingly be filled by Irish or EU citizens. In addition, the Department has introduced new procedures for dealing with work permits holders placed on short-time working, as well as in the case of the redundancy of an employment permit holder, which take effect immediately. These notes explain the scheme changes and new procedures in Question and Answer format.

Q. 1) I am an employment permit holder, or 2) I have already applied for an employment permit, Am I affected by the changed eligibility requirements for new permits?
A. The changed eligibility requirements do not affect you – they apply only to first-time permit applicants who apply on or after 1 June 2009. (However, the new procedures for permit holders placed on short-time working, or made redundant, apply immediately in respect of all current or future permit holders).

Q. What’s different about the new arrangements?
A. While work permits will continue to be made available for jobs in eligible job categories, there are revised conditions for applying for new work permits, the future renewal of these permits (including revised fees), work permits for spouses/dependants of new-entrant permit holders, work permit holders placed on short-term working, and for permit holders who become redundant.

Q. Have changes been made to the job categories eligible for new work permits?
A. Yes – the occupations of work riders (horse racing), domestic workers and heavy goods vehicle (HGV) drivers are no longer eligible for new work permits. Existing permits for jobs in these categories will continue to be eligible for renewal.

Q. Are there revised fees for new work permits?
A. No - the fee for a new work permit applications received on and from 1 June 2009 will remain unchanged at ?1,000 for a new work permit for up to 24 months.

Q. Are there new conditions and fees for the renewal of work permits?
A. Yes - New work permits granted for job vacancies will be subject to labour market needs tests at both first application and permit renewal stages. The renewal of any work permit granted after 1 June 2009 will be subject to a renewal fee of ?1,500 for up to a 24-month permit (?2,250 for up to 36 months).

Q. I am an existing work permit holder, or I submitted my work permit application before 1 June 2009. Am I affected by fee changes?
A. No – fees will remain unchanged at ?1,000 for a new work permit for up to 24 months, and ?1, 000 for the renewal of a work permit for up to 24 months (?1,500 for up to 36 months).

Q. Will work permits continue to be granted for jobs paying less than ?30,000 per annum?
A. No - only in exceptional cases will the Department consider applications for new permits for jobs paying under ?30,000 per annum. The application fee for a permit in this category will be ?1,000, for any period up to 24months.

Q. Has the labour market needs test been changed?
A. Yes - the labour market needs test now requires advertisement of the job vacancy for 8 weeks with FÁS/EURES plus 6 days advertising in the national media, so as to allow the maximum opportunity for the position to be filled from within the Irish labour market and wider EEA.

Q. I was granted a work permit before 1 June 2009. Does my job have to be advertised at the time my permit is due for renewal?
A. No – those who were permit holders before 1 June 2009 will not have a labour market needs test applied when seeking to renew permits for the positions they currently hold.

Q. What are the new conditions for work permits for Spouses and Dependants of principal work permit holders?
A. Spouses and dependants of future principal work permit holders, i.e. those receiving permits from 1 June 2009 onwards, will be required to apply for work permits in their own right according to standard work permit eligibility criteria, including a labour market needs test, restriction to vacancies in eligible job categories and payment of the standard application fee.

Q. I am the spouse/dependant of an existing permit holder. Do the new changes apply to me if I wish to seek a work permit?
A - No. Spouses and dependants of principal permit holders already in the system will not be subject to the new criteria and applications from them will continue to be considered under the arrangements introduced in 2007.

Q. I am work permit holder that has been placed on short-time working. Am I eligible to have my permit renewed even though I am working fewer hours?
A. The Department will consider applications for the renewal of work permits received in respect of employees placed on short-time working during the currency of their work permit. Applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Q. What happens if I am made redundant while I am a work permit holder?
A. You should notify the Employment Permits Section of the Department when you are informed of your redundancy. If your permission to remain in Ireland allows, you will have up to three months from the date of your redundancy to seek alternative employment. From the 1 June 2009 a labour market needs test will be required in respect of any subsequent work permit application you make. If the job from which you were made redundant was among the list of ineligible job categories, you will be entitled to apply for a new work permit for a position from that ineligible list, if you so wish.

Q. What happens if I cannot get another job within three months of being made redundant?
A. You will be expected to leave the country on the expiry of your permission to stay. However, if, having left the country, you are later successful in getting another job offer in Ireland, you are free to apply for an employment permit according to the criteria set out above.

Employment Permits Section

April 2009

http://www.entemp.ie/labour/workperm...rangements.htm

[Остап Ибрагимыч]

Сообщение от dzher

ета звезда только(?) для фииз прописана.

A я понимаю что пока и другие ограничения на супругов "старых холдеров" не распространяется. Ограничения перечислены под определением "new measures". А в предыдущем предложении в явном виде указано на кого эти межурс распространяются:

http://www.entemp.ie/press/2009/20090415.htm

Сообщение от DETE

Main Features of Changes to Employment Permit Arrangements

Notwithstanding rapidly declining demand for employment permits the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment recently undertook a review of employment permit arrangements to ensure their ongoing relevance to the needs of the Irish labour market. As an outcome of this review, more stringent eligibility criteria are being implemented for prospective new entrants to the work permit schemes from 1 June 2009 onwards. The main features of the new measures are:

Work Permits

Making more job categories ineligible for new work permits (work riders, domestic workers and HGV drivers now ineligible), and an ongoing assessment of other occupational categories regarding their continued eligibility

No new permits for low-paid jobs i.e. paying under ?30,000 per annum

Strengthening the labour market needs test by doubling EURES/FAS advertisement of the job vacancy to 8 weeks, and national press advertisement to six days.

Tougher conditions for the renewal of permits – higher fees and requirement for labour market needs test on renewal

Spouses and dependants of future principal work permit holders having to apply for permits in their own right subject to the standard eligibility criteria and fees for Work Permits (currently spousal/dependant work permits are open to all job categories with no labour market needs test applied or fee charged)
Green Card List .......

[Kolobok]

в 2007 когда решали какой пермит делать работодатель предложил на 2 года. сначала согласислся и я. подумав надо всем уже после отправки документов и решил, зная Ирландию, допалтить 500 енотов и сделать на 3 года, до лета 2010.

Позвонил я классному парню Кирану Бернсу в департамент а он говорит - все, выслали мы 2летний пермит уже. короче нервотрепка, и тд, давай, бери че дают. Подумал и решил...пробивать дело до конца....написали маляву, выписал Я чецк на 500 и отправили, вместе с 2 летним пермитом назад...так мол и сяк, клерикал еррор, простите, дайте. Пришел 3летний пермит черех 2 недели....подписанный тем же самым Кираном.

сижу и читаю - на ЛТР подался ешхе в январе 2008, дай Б*г, что все скоро хорошо закночится.

Короче удачи всем в йето непростое время...